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of the Moment: Over the months it's become ritualized to the point that any time we hear any loud, interrupting noise, at home or elsewhere, I can say, "Did you..." and she'll immediately reply, "Nope." -- January 14, 2004 |
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I have now reigned about 50 years in victory or peace, beloved by my subjects, dreaded by my enemies, and respected by my allies. Riches and honors, power and pleasure, have waited on my call, nor does any earthly blessing appear to have been wanting to my felicity In this situation, I have diligently numbered the days of pure and genuine happiness which have fallen to my lot. They amount to fourteen. --Abd Er-Rahman III of Spain, 960 C.E. |
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I wrote it, I saved it, and then I somehow forgot entirely about uploading it. Sometimes I'll notice a day later that I didn't upload the index page, but that I did upload the version of the page in the daily archives. Yesterday I managed to miss the whole thing. Bonus points for me. Sort of. Anyway, it's up now and can be viewed here, if you missed it. I thought the long news item essay thing about the MoveOn awards and the hatred being directed at Margaret Cho made for some pretty good reading, personally. Today I've got a reader mail, a couple of news items, and then a longer discussion about robotics and human-simulation in film, and what it says about human nature and psychology. Still no new photo pages; next week, with any luck, though I'm trying to get back into a fiction writing mode, mostly for the long term benefits.
This mail came in earlier this week, in reply to some of my playoff football-related comments on Monday.
I don't have much to add to this, despite saving it until today, when I can, in theory, talk about the upcoming NFL playoff games. After all, there's nothing of more interest to my many foreign readers than paragraph after paragraph about the inner vagaries of a violent and complicated team sport that enjoys zero popularity outside of the US. So the huge offense Colts are playing the good defense/low offense Patriots. The Colts have been damn near perfect the first two weeks of the post-season, racking up huge point totals while playing two virtually flawless offensive games. I don't think New England would be able to stay with them indoors, but that's why you play the 16 regular season games and win all you can; for home field advantage in the playoffs. And NE went 14-2, and they're playing at home, and their home is Foxboro, Mass. Which means that this may be the determining factor. It's supposed to be 32-16Ί on Sunday, with a 30% chance of snow. The problem for the Patriots is that they are primarily a passing finesse team as well, so while bad weather would probably slow down the Colts, it will slow them down also. The Patriots are home and favored, but not by much, and I'm personally hoping the game goes like last week's Indy vs. KC game; tons of scoring, since I don't care who wins so I should at least hope for a fun game to watch. I guess I hope Indy wins, so we can see their super offense in good weather in the SuperBowl, as they score all over Philly or Carolina, but I'll root for whoever seems to want it more on Sunday. Indy 24, NE 20. As for the other game, I really don't care about that one. Philly fans are fun to root against, so it would be fun to see them crying in their $8 cups of beer if they lost badly at home. Plus no one alive knows or cares anything about Carolina, so it would be funny to see them make it to the SuperBowl. Plus they have some actual talent on their team other than at quarterback, so they might make the Superbowl competitive. On the other hand, I have to echo Malaya from last week, when she told me, "I just want the Eagles to keep winning to fuck with Rush Limbaugh." Just picture him, flopped on his recliner at home on Sunday, watching the sport he so loves and that he so briefly had a chance to opinionate about on ESPN, sobbing tears of bitterness and hatred into his Slim Fast shake, those last few bottles of Oxycontin he has squirreled away in the toilet tank calling him, promising blissful relief from the crushing, soul-breaking pain that is his life... How can you not root for the Eagles, and for Donovan McNabb, given Rush's past comments and the history of black QBs in the NFL? Still, the Eagles suck and Carolina probably isn't going to give the game away like the Packers did last week. Carolina 31, Philly 14
€ The corporate ownership of the Bush government continues to bring shame upon us all, especially in the field of science and technology. Past disgraces have included the stripping of environmental regulations, editing reports to remove information about global warming, fighting all forms of energy production other than the short-sighted consumption of fossil fuels, banning funding for family planning that includes abortion information, and so on. But this one today might be the stupidest yet.
What's next? Are they going to object to world health recommendations to avoid smoking, since after all, cigarettes are damn tasty, and if you only smoke a few a day don't do any real harm? There's a longer article about on the UK Guardian site, with some better quotage:
Okay, wait. A scientist not employed by Bush or friends actually thinks the US has "moral authority?" But seriously, to reference my above analogy again; doesn't this sound like cigarette company scientists in the 70's and 80's, when they were still fighting to convince people that cigs were healthy?
Students won't be hearing cries of "sinners" and "whores" from Penn's most notorious preacher anytime soon. A jury convicted campus fixture "Brother Stephen" on Wednesday to a minimum of three years in jail for the charge of soliciting sex from a teenage boy, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. The article in the Philly Inquirer is a bit more comprehensive, and doesn't make errors like this one. Only a judge imposes sentences; the jury just determines guilt or innocence. But the guy is looking at 3 years minimum on the most serious charge, so it looks like he'll be going away for a while if this isn't overturned on appeal. I have to admit that it might be since the only evidence is apparently the word of the 14 y/o boy. The preacher man admits that he asked the kid for directions and then that he came back five minutes later to ask him again, but he says it was innocent questions about a movie while the kid says he asked for directions to a porno shop, and then returned to ask for oral. However, 12 jurors believed the kid and found the guy guilty, and they heard more about the case than any of us did, so we have to go with their opinion foremost. I'm trying not to let my "please God let him be guilty and get AIDS in prison" reaction to any loudspeaker-raving asshole taint my evaluation of the merits of the case. But it's hard. The closing line from the Inquirer article pretty well sums up the quality of man he was:
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Anyway, this time there are several mails asking about Gollum/Andy Serkis being nominated for acting awards based on his performance in LotR:RotK or TTT. Ebert's answer is interesting, but primarily for the digression he indulges in.
I don't really agree with him on Gollum being in some other "best CG character" type of category, but that's not what I wanted to talk about. What I found interesting was the concept he broaches, that robots become more and more charming until they cross some "too-close to human" line and then are suddenly seen as creepy and artificial. It's an interesting concept though, and I'd like to see data from tests on this subject. I can't find the article online anywhere, but the entry for "uncannyvalley" on the WordSpy site can be seen here. They have a slightly longer quote from the article:
They have another quote on the subject as well: People generally relate better to animated figures that are distinctly outlandish than those that begin to approach the ideal. This is a phenomenon known to robotics researchers as "the uncanny valley"that point where a robot is so close to lifelike yet still so short of ideal that people become focused on its imperfections. So how about this concept? Malaya rejected it out of hand when I mentioned it to her, along with the Final Fantasy example, but after reading the actual definition page, she's come around to maybe agree with it. It was mostly Ebert's Final Fantasy example that put her off of it, since she actually saw that film, and knows how bad it was, so any concept that people rejected it since it looked weird doesn't fly very far with her. It's not like everyone rejected Gigli because of some theory about people rejecting movies with titles that had more than 1 but fewer than 3 G's in them. I'm not sure why Ebert chose that example anyway, unless it was something he'd been long thinking about. Final Fantasy was a pretty forgettable box office bomb; a movie I hadn't thought of in years. I was interested in it pre-release, based on the hype about the realistic CG and huge budget, but the trailers were boring and the reviews were death, which was enough to keep me away. So I checked Ebert's review to see what he'd said about the look of things, and here we see the start of the solution. He loved the movie, gave it a 3.5 stars, and raved about the enjoyable look of it.
So since Ebert liked it and thought it was revolutionary, he must be forever wondering why no one else liked it and why it didn't make any money. Hence this "uncanny valley" definition comes in, and seems to fill that hole. Wondering just what other critics thought, I checked the Rotten Tomatoes page, and surprise surprise, one of the first quoted major critic reviews is from Salon, and it backs up Ebert's uncanny valley concept perfectly.
So this critic at least fell deep into the uncanny valley. Having read quite a few LotR:RotK reviews, and all of the negative ones (online) I didn't see anyone who said this about Gollum, at least not to the point that it ruined the movie for them. I did see some bitching about him in TTT, and lots of bitching about the way the Ents looked. For me at least, the Ents looked perfectly real. I mean they were talking trees; how are they supposed to look? Gollum is a bigger stretch, since he's humanoid, basically a mutated hobbit, so you can sort of relate how he looks to how the hobbits could/should look if they were mutated. And by that metric he's not quite perfect; I thought his head was too big and his eyes much too large, like how had his eye sockets swelled so much? But he was good enough in every other way; movement, character interaction, voice, lip synch, etc, that the overall effect was convincing enough. There are lots of other recent movies we can consider. The Matrix 2 and 3 for instance, but especially #2 with the big brawl featuring Neo vs. 100 Agent Smiths. It was almost entirely CG, with Neo's character and the Agents all basically a video game. And I think that worked against the film; it was realistic, but not quite realistic enough. It never felt like a really urgent fight, just a huge spectacle. Compare it to the bloody fight in the subway in the Matrix 1, where there was no CG at all, other than some of the special effects and superfast punching speed stuff. That fight worked very well, since it had weight and pain and felt real. When they got hit you could feel the impact. Not so for the rubbery, bouncing Neo and 100 Smiths in the Matrix 2 playground battle. Another example is Spider-Man. It was very popular, but I found the movie pretty mediocre (I've never seen it again since the theaters.) and thought the action scenes, especially ones of Spidey swinging around the city, were very fake. He was like a rubber ball or a plastic toy or a video game prop; moving far too quickly and weightlessly to look realistic, and that stuff really took me out of the movie. They did a better job in Matrix 2 of making the Neo and the Smiths seem to have weight and gravity, but it still looked essentially fake, too fast, too bouncy, too many camera spins. The Hulk had a ton of CG, but it was pretty universally disliked. They spent so much time and money and effort on the big green guy, but he never looked even remotely human to me, and all I've ever seen are the previews and the trailer. Malaya saw the movie and said it was just awful; so fake that you never had any human empathy for the Hulk at all, since he was just this big bouncing steroidal Gumby thing. Going back a few years, the next example is, inevitably, Jar Jar, who is perhaps the most hated movie character of all time, CG or other. He was famously CG at the time, and revolutionary, but I don't recall much of the dislike for him being based on his appearance and artificial nature. He was just loathsome, annoying, and a walking minstrel show. I didn't see Episode 1 in theaters, put off by all of the hype and then the bad reviews, so my first viewing of it was when my dad taped it off of HBO. By that time I'd read all about it and the Jar Jar flack, and watched it looking to see the racist aspects of him. I didn't think there was much to that, until the very end of the movie after the ridiculous battle with the walking desk lamps, when the Gungan parade high-stepped it into town, looking like an exaggerated caricature of the black college bands you mostly see on halftime shows. At that point all of Jar Jar's "meesa"'s started to sound a lot like, "massah"'s, and yeah, it seemed pretty racist. Or if not racist, at least trading on the old stereotype of black performers. Whether or not that was intentional by Lucas and his animators is open to debate, but I don't think the uncanny resemblance is less than clear at this point. The minstrel show aspects of Jar Jar and his peoples aside, he was just horrid. Annoying, slapstickish, and painful to watch. I don't think that was due to his animated nature though. It was due to the awful writing that made him such an annoying character. Annoying to adults, at least. I've often heard that kids liked or loved Jar Jar, or didn't see anything wrong or weird about him. He wasn't a glaring, non-serious note in an otherwise sporadically-watchable film to them. Just for adults. Which lead Malaya to wonder if the uncanny valley thing applies to kids, or just to adults. I don't think it's been studied, but kids are far more accepting of oddities in appearance or behavior than adults are, so they'd probably have less issue with it. After all, how many movies have a weird monster that adults hate but that kids accept? Frankenstein's escaped monster meets the young girl and finds a friend, or ET hides with the kids, for example. You can also look at modern animation. Most adults find a lot of it "ugly," while kids love it. I've always liked cartoons of every type, yet I can't sit through the movie trailer for any Rugrats movie without marveling at how intentionally unattractive the animation is. It's painful to my eyes. As are the few brief moments I've ever seen of Spongebob Squarepants. They're just ugly; it's a purely aesthetic judgment that has nothing to do with the writing or plot or character (which I've never seen enough of to form an opinion of). On the other hand, Ren and Stimpy was the first cartoon I know of to use ugly and hyper-realistic drawings of gross things, and I grew to like that one. I didn't find it entertaining or funny or enjoyable when they'd go from the normal look of the cartoon to some super close up of a huge hair pustule on Stimpy's ass, but it didn't make me want to turn the show off, at least not once I grew to expect it. And I'm sure I'd soon grow to not mind the ugly animation of Rugrats or Spongebob, if I could tolerate the plot/writing long enough for that to happen. It's just an odd choice to draw a whole cartoon in such an ugly style, when the animators could, in theory, make it look more conventional. And perhaps less popular, since the art work style wouldn't stand out so immediately to everyone. The adult analogy I think of is Ted Rall's work, since he draws in a very ugly, rough style that's immediately recognizable. However since he draws nasty political cartoons, the ugly artwork style works for him and seems appropriate.
This has gone far afield, in the best Fluxblog style, and I'm not sure if I have any overall point. Probably not. I do find the uncanny valley concept interesting though, and I'm sure I'll carry that with me as I see upcoming films with CG characters. However I don't think I've ever rejected a nearly-human CG character since they were nearly, but not quite, human. Perhaps as the technology continues to advance we'll get some more examples that will really show us which side of the uncanny valley line we come down on. At this point the best example probably is Final Fantasy, since that's about the only movie to have CG characters who were supposed to pass for human. Gollum was close, but obviously mutated and weird looking, Jar Jar was not at all human, the Hulk was huge and green, Roger Rabbit was a cartoon, Yoda (in Episode 2) was small and green, etc. We'll have to see how it goes with a CG character who is virtually human in appearance... Of course the question there is, "Why?" Why spend the money and time and trouble to make a CG character look like a human when you could just use a real human actor in the first place, and enhance him, or put makeup on him, or whatever? At this point, man in suit is still the best option for realism, even if it's man in suit spiffed up with some CG on top. But as the technology advances, who knows? |
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