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BlackChampagne -- no longer new; improvement also in question.: Interneting for Fun and Not-Fun



Friday, June 03, 2005  

Interneting for Fun and Not-Fun


My dad worked for a major computer company for years and years, so it shouldn't be surprising that he has integrated the Internet into his daily life. What is surprising, to me at least, is how he’s gone about doing so. He doesn't blog, or email that much, or read blogs, or surf very much, or game at all, or anything like that. No, what Dad does is work.

He pays his bills online, he buys things, he tracks his investments, he uses eBay, he makes airline reservations, and so on. All practical things, all useful things, and none of them exactly fun things. This isn't bad, and in fact it's commendable, especially as compared to my ability to sit online for twelve hours without ever once doing anything even remotely productive. It's just interesting that he's so task-oriented and efficient online, when he's online about 1% as often as I am. I was a relatively early adapter too; spending many hours a day online back in the late 80s and then through the 90s; I've had broadband for nearly a decade, leaping on as soon as cable modems became available/affordable, and I've seen the Internet grow by leaps and bounds. If I'd started my own site way back then, rather than working on a gaming site owned by someone else for more than six years before doing this site, I'd have an impressively-aged copyright date. Hell, I've been doing this site for more than three years now, and that makes BlackChampagne.com relatively ancient, in Internet time.

My point though, is that it's ironic that I have been online so much more than my dad, and for so much longer, and yet he does far more real life things on it. I buy airline tickets online, and occasionally order something from amazon.com , but that's about it. Most of my online activities are purely mental, as I read things, learn things, play games, write blog posts, and so on. I suppose you could say that those things have made me grow as a person and have shaped my intellectual state (such as it is) but why can't I do fun stuff and informative stuff while also being productive? More specifically, why don't I want to use the Internet to replace real life activities I find tedious? I hate writing checks and opening bills, so why haven't I migrated those activities to online bill paying? I hate going out and shopping and browsing and talking to idiot sales people, so why don't I order more stuff online? It is a mystery.

(One cool thing about online bill paying, which dad showed me how to do in case I had to do it for him if his hospital stay had dragged on, is that his bank guarantees payment once he’s made it through their bill paying service. So when their computer somehow screwed up one of his credit card payments some months ago, and he had electronic proof that he'd paid the bill on time, the bank took care of issuing another check, canceling the first one, and they even covered the late fees and interest. Good luck trying to get that sort of service from the postal service, eh?)

The other side of this odd coin is that Dad hardly uses the Internet for anything I use it for. He reads some news and sports info online, but he’s basically old school about that sort of thing. He prefers newspapers and magazines and TV for his entertainment and information, and just uses the Internet for a few things, and then turns off the computer. He has researched a few hobbies online, but he's very practical about it and mostly just looks for cheap places to buy stuff he likes, or reads a bit about it and feels happy with that. I've never seen him using Google just to follow links and gain info for fun, or wind up reading web pages for hours as he follows one interest after another. (You know, the sort of bullshit surfing that led quite a few of you to this page in the first place.) It's weird, since Dad is a huge expert on numerous things. Wine, golf, some types of art and food, and more. He just got that information from real people, or from books. He reads a ton too, but mostly novels, and that's understandable, given the generally-execrable quality of literature online. *cough*

If there's any logic to this, it's that we both still do what we started off doing online. I was online all the time back when there wasn't anything productive online. There weren't any financial services online, and while you could get sports info or follow the stock ticker, the online versions of those things were far from high quality. You could read weird things written by weird people, or play games, or email your ass off, or waste many hours with random surfing, though. In fact it was pretty much mandatory.

When dad started using the Internet regularly, it was much more organized and there were lots of useful things. Banks, online stores, bill paying options, and so forth. He’d long since grown set in his ways of reading the news and gaining info about sports and such, so he didn't really change that with the Internet. He got on to be productive and efficient and adult, and that’s what he did, and when he’s done that he gets offline.

These are not the only two ways to be online, of course. Malaya is somewhat like me, in that she's perfectly capable of spending many hours online just surfing and having fun and playing games and such. However she also uses the Internet quite a bit for maps and directions and all the sorts of things you used to have to actually talk to people to learn. She'd probably do a lot more of the stuff dad does, except that she doesn't trust the security of it, and would sooner throw out her old checks and bank statements without shredding them into confetti than she would give her credit card or bank account to any business or service online. She also uses the Internet as a data mine far more than anyone else I've ever known, and that's because she loves learning new stuff, and while books are fine, there are infinite sources online, and most of them are free.

I don't know enough about Malaya’s pre-Internet information-gathering and other behaviors to compare how she's changed or substituted with the aid of the Internet, but I never said this was a comprehensive survey or anything, now did I? With any luck she'll hop in on the comments and enlighten us all.
Comments:

Since Flux and I have such the age gap ::ahem::, my internet experience is probably a bit different than his considering how quickly it changes over the course of a couple of years. I don't even remember some of the pre-widespread Internet things he talks about, especially when I was in grade school when he started going on line.

For most of my life I shopped, paid bills, and researched the old fashion way: I left the house to hit the mall, the post office, or the library.

At the parents house I had painfully slow dial up for the first time the summer after I graduated from college. (Yes, my university had a T-1 but the lab was always busy and my computer wasn't set up to log on.) With dial up at home I couldn't bother doing any long term surfing since it took forever to load pictures and I was still paying by the minute. (Oh you kids today who don't know anything but unlimited access!)

Post graduate school, Pre-Flux, and while I was overseas (early 2000), broadband wasn't even an option since it was so pricey-- although it was during the long boring evenings that I really started poking around the 'Net and discovered how much (non)useful information is out there.

I have memories of slowly building up my bookmarks but the fact of the matter is I inherited many "good site" bookmarks and cable internet when I started dating Flux. He pointed me to all the blogs, news sites, etc. and practically forced me to install high speed internet. (We actually fought about it. Come to think of it, I was probably being territorial, certainly being stubborn, but today am eternally grateful he made me do it.)

Today I still love the libraries and bookstores for research, but Amazon.com ("Buy crap!") and Google are far better for giving me leads about what to find in actual Real Life places. YahooMaps is my friend because I don't like getting lost nor do I wish to speak to obnoxious strangers if I don't have to.

So I can't say I really substituted one behavior for another; more like I enhanced the life I have.

And for the romantics, let us all remember that I did play Diablo 2 on BattleNet on dial up, did find Diabloii.net on dial up, which eventually led me to BlackChamapagne. The rest, as they say, is history. Those were the best bookmarks ever. ;-P


 

I find it really weird that someone who had used the internet on dial-up and gotten to use it well would [b]resist[/b] to the installation of broadband. That's just beyond my comprehension - ever since I knew such a thing as broadband existed (and it hasn't for end-consumers in NZ for all that long, since about 98 or 99 at the very earliest) I've wanted it.

Luckily I've shacked up with someone who is a bit nuts about computers and insists on paying $150 a month for 10 mbit that we really don't need.


 

Lanth: I was being stubborn and stupid. Go figure. In hindsight, I'm not sure WTF I was thinking either.


 

M,

That makes sense...I think this might be one of those things that differ between the sexes. My wife and I each had a house before we moved in together and got married. She moved in with me since I had the larger home. I got several questions about her "invading" my living space with clothes, possessions, etc. She kept asking if it bothered me, and I kept saying, "No." She maintains though, that if it had been the other way around there would have been huge issues about what went where and what could even be brought into her house. To this day, she seems puzzled that it didn't bother me. (Hell, I needed a bunch more furniture to fill out the house.)

So I can understand the territory thinking. Relationships aren't always logical, after all. :)


 

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